Stephen Girard / Hannah / Thomas Jefferson




Stephen Girard



The following conversation first appeared in my book: Stephen Girard, America's Colonial Olympian
1750-1821. Stephen Girard is on his deathbed. His fever is dangerously high; he has been hallucinating.


Girard: (in his bedroom) Hannah, Hannah.  (His black slave of many years comes quickly into his room.)

Hannah: What is it, Mr. Girard?

Girard: Please bring some fresh water. (Hannah hurries out of the room and returns immediately with a pitcher of cool water.) Has anybody come to call this morning?

Hannah: Not a soul. You’ve been asleep for hours. Do you want me to tidy the room now or shall I come back later?

Girard: I’ll ring when I’m ready. (Hannah leaves the room.)

Thomas Jefferson

Voice: I don’t like to be kept waiting and for that matter I don’t know why I’m here.

Girard: Unless you show yourself, I won’t know who you are.

Voice: Having lots of house guests, are you?

Girard: My mind is being invaded with many thoughts, mostly unresolved concerns.

Jefferson: I’m Thomas Jefferson. (Reveals himself) This will be a short visit because you and I have no unresolved concerns.

Girard: I didn’t ask you to come, but since you’re here, let me say briefly that my political tendencies were for the Republican Democratic Party.

Jefferson: How nice for you.

Girard: However, when Washington was in office, I detected more zeal in your efforts for changing the grip the Federalists had on our country.

Jefferson: Come on, Girard. You are a merchant. Your only interest is to receive the maximum protection from the Federal Government while paying as little as possible in taxes.

Girard: I’d like to have that maxim engraved over the door of my office. It sounds like an honest motto for all businessmen. The maxim you should hang over your door might be: “I promised everything to everybody while campaigning, just try to make me keep my promises now.”

Jefferson: You sound like a bitter old man who will shortly leave this world. If there is nothing else, I’ll be …

Girard: And I liked the younger Jefferson who had fire in his belly, who was not afraid to criticize Washington for declaring neutrality for the United States, after using the armed forces of France to do his dirty work. You must have been angry as hell because you resigned your position as Secretary of State for that reason.

Jefferson: I resigned because I could not work for a Federalist government that had as its principal advisor Alexander Hamilton. Is there anything else?

Girard: Of course there is something else. You resigned because of the Hamilton thorn in your side. I have had to live in a nation that stupidly alienated France that might have protected our ships against the British and pirates until we could develop a navy of our own.

Jefferson: Your criticisms are just. I have spent much of my political life trying to resolve that problem. My focus was to build an international coalition against unconventional enemies like the Barbary Pirates of North Africa.

Girard: Before the United States became independent of Great Britain, American merchant ships and their crews were protected from the pirates of Tripoli, Morocco, Tunis and Algiers by the navy of Great Britain.

Jefferson: Yes, and as you already mentioned, during the Revolution, the ships of the United States were protected by the 1778 alliance with France, requiring France to “protect vessels and effects against all violence, insults, attacks, or depredations on the part of the Princes and States of Barbary or their subjects.”

Girard: I suppose the new United States Government did not count on having to pay the pirates for ransom of ships and crews and funds for relief of prisoners.

Jefferson: Being a sovereign country meant having many new costs. As early as 1784, Congress began to follow the tradition of the other European countries and appropriated $80,000 as tribute to the Barbary States. I was a minister in Europe with John Adams at the time when we began our negotiations.

Girard: As you know my experience was on the side, that of merchant ships. Not only did we have to contend with the pirates of Barbary, we also had Great Britain seizing our ships and taking our crews. We merchants wanted to be reimbursed for our losses. Eighty thousand dollars was not going to be enough to set aside.

Jefferson: Exactly right! Trouble came in 1785. The Algerians captured two American ships. The Dey of Algiers notified us that the ships, their crews and passengers would be held for a ransom of about $60,000.  As minister to France, I was opposed to the payment of tribute. I put together a plan for the following interested partners: Portugal, Naples, the two Sicilies, Venice, Malta, Denmark and Sweden. They all agreed to form an association.  Because England and France were reluctant, the plan did not get started.

Girard: While these countries were trying to find a solution to piracy, ships were being taken and crews were being imprisoned.

Jefferson: I still believed that force was the only way to solve the problem. I wrote to James Monroe in Congress saying we needed to use the rod for a change. In a letter to the President of Yale College in December of 1786, I said it would be easier to raise ships and men to fight these pirates into reason, than money to bribe them.

Girard: It must have angered you that the United States ended up paying the Dey of Algiers almost a million dollars in cash to ransom a frigate and over a hundred sailors.

Jefferson: To cut this story short, it was by force that we got the attention of the Barbary States. However, it was not until 1805, when an American fleet under Commodore John Rogers and a land force raised by an American naval agent to the Barbary powers, Captain William Eaton, threatened to capture Tripoli and install the brother of Tripoli's pasha on the throne. It was then that a treaty brought an end to the hostilities. In fact, it was not until the second war with Algiers, in 1815, that naval victories by Commodores William Bainbridge and Stephen Decatur led to treaties ending all tribute payments by the United States. European nations continued annual payments until the 1830s. However, international piracy in Atlantic and Mediterranean waters declined during this time under pressure from the Euro-American nations, that no longer viewed pirate states as mere annoyances during peacetime and potential allies during war.

Girard: I did my part by getting the American people to understand the plight of our merchant navy. I held meetings, wrote letters to my agents abroad and to our members in Congress. I even entered politics.

Jefferson: Thank you for letting me attend this gathering. I didn’t mean to stay so long or talk so much. I do wish you well in whatever life has in store for you.

Girard: Thank you for coming Mister President.




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